Keith Olbermann an American Patriot?

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Description: Setting aside the current perceived definition of Patriotism (flag waving retards) we instead need to look to the founding fathers of the United States of America for answers. And of course the question is: "Is Keith Olbermann or Bill O'Reilly the true Patriot"?
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TulseLuper ::: Favorites Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a libertarian myself and I can't stand most liberals in the media. Olbermann is not one of those liberals. I used to be a Bill O'Reilly fan but I'm glad I've started watching Countdown instead. 07-07-17 12:47:46 __________________________________________________
JawsJaws ::: Favorites He's one-sided. He doesn't report the news. He reports his opinion. 07-07-11 18:54:08 __________________________________________________
jlassie ::: Favorites You're absolutely right; Olbermann turned on the Democrats in Congress when they were unable to fulfill their promise to end the war and bring the troops home. He also had Al Sharpton as the "Worst Person In The World" one day. It's not Liberal vs. Conservative; it's rationality vs. stupidity. 07-07-08 23:08:17 __________________________________________________
TwinSwords2 ::: Favorites The real issue is the fact that we have a two party system. If you are a die-hard conservative, you might object to Bush's spending or immigration policy, but in a two party system there is only one alternative: The Democrats. And most conservatives would rather put up with even a highly flawed Republican than any Democrat. And the opposite is, of course, true of liberals and Democrats. I'd rather have a Clinton than a Bush, despite Clinton's imperfections. 07-06-05 15:20:36 __________________________________________________
TwinSwords2 ::: Favorites But you can't say that Clinton wasn't a Democrat. Of course he was a Democrat. He was twice nominated by the Democratic Party to be its candidate for President. I don't know how it is in Canada or other democratic nations, but in the US, what the two parties stand for changes drastically over time. Republicans in Barry Goldwater's time were very different than today's Republicans: But they are still Republicans. The terms correspond to party membership, not political values. 07-06-05 15:17:10 __________________________________________________
TwinSwords2 ::: Favorites You are correct about Clinton, and his presidency did cause a lot of disaffection in the Democratic Party ranks. That's why a lot of people foolishly voted for Ralph Nader in 1996 and 2000 (including me), or just stayed home from the polls. 07-06-05 15:14:08 __________________________________________________
PierreElliottTrudeau ::: Favorites Depends. If you followed Clinton then you too were a victim of this same infliction. Clinton was not a Democrat or a Liberal. He was and is a Neo-Liberal. 07-06-05 14:08:02 __________________________________________________
TwinSwords2 ::: Favorites You are soooo right. Democrats have been trying to play an above the fray, gentleman's kind of politics long after the right started sniping for our skulls and throwing grenades from a ditch. The left has improved slightly since Republicans first turned politics into a bloodsport. But they have a long way to go if they are ever going to match the Republicans. 07-06-05 03:31:01 __________________________________________________
TwinSwords2 ::: Favorites What Republicans have stigmatized better than anything else is the word "liberal." The word has been little more than an epithet for over a generation. (Reagan was the first who spit the term out like it was the worst kind of insult.) Most Americans are liberal, but only a minority will apply that lable to themselves. 07-06-05 03:23:30 __________________________________________________
TwinSwords2 ::: Favorites You make an excellent observation, that the blind followers abandon their own supposed beliefs as they mindlessly follow their leaders. The bush years have been by far the most dramatic example of this trend, because his radical departure from virtually all of our norms of American politics. I will also argue that this is a phenomenon that characterizes conservatives (Republicans) far more the liberals (Democrats). 07-06-05 03:21:18 __________________________________________________